OK I hated windows 8/8.1 but I like 10 why?

Tony K · 14 Oct 2014

I love, I mean love Windows 8.1 with a pure passion. I tell people everywhere that it's the greatest OS released to date. Even better than 7.

It looks as though 33% of members here agree. https://www.tenforums.com/general-dis...n-windows.html A much better system overall IMO once one learns it, although 8.1 is indeed better than 8.

Once I organized my superb Modern-looking Start Screen the way I like it with personally titled columns there is simply no problem finding anything. With much quicker efficiency I may add. Live tiles give me information that dead icons or Start Menu simply cannot. Search is much better with categories. If I install an app it's there for me marked as new to be easily found and place on my Start Screen whenever I so choose to put it. Much better than digging into a small cascading Start Menu.

Charms, once learned, is another great feature they added. Too much to post on that to explain it.

Start Screen including titled columns, settings, Store apps, and favorites all automatically installed in the next OS I Install via MS services to boot. What could be better than that? Right out of the box.

Windows 10 looks to be 8.1 with a Start Menu which is nothing but a miniaturized combination of Start Screen and Apps Screen. The other change is that Store apps now open on the desktop with better snapping. Using the combination of Win32 and Store apps still remains. The added virtual desktops looks to be a great added feature.

Looks like I may be leaving one love for another soon. That's if I'm able to boot to the Start Screen and not the cumbersome miniature Start Menu. Didn't know how much I "disliked" it until the Start Screen was introduced. I used to plaster dead icons in an organized manner on my desktop, well, much like a Start Screen so I didn't have to dig into the menu. Windows key > Right arrow > Enter was about all I used it for.

Chuck38 · 14 Oct 2014

I'm with HG. I love Window 8 and 8.1! It is the best OS yet! However, I haven't touched my Windows 8.1 in weeks. I really am liking Windows 10. :)

HG, I don't know if you can boot to the start screen, but you can replace the start menu with the start screen :)

-Chuck

Charlie · 14 Oct 2014

Hey Guys I like this twerk to switch back and forth. Good luck, Charlie

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...text-menu.html

Tony K · 14 Oct 2014

Yes and thanks, Chuck. I know that one can configure it that way. I did try that for a bit, but configured back to the Start Menu to really learn it before reverting back. Mainly to help others some day upon RTM. Another thing I noticed is that it messed up my 8.1 Start Screen because of synchronization. Lol! Whatever I changed in 10 it messed up in 8.1.

When the boot to Start Screen option isn't grayed out any longer, then I'll surely use that. That's when I get my system up and running again that is. In the mean time I'm using a 7 lappy. Man, that's old cumbersome tech!

Tony K · 14 Oct 2014

Charlie said:

Hey Guys I like this twerk to switch back and forth. Good luck, Charlie

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...text-menu.html

Thanks for that, Charlie. King Tute Shawn comes through with another great .ini! :)

Mystere · 14 Oct 2014

All this really says is that you never really gave Windows 8 an objective look. You made up your mind either before you tried it (and thus trying it just reinforced your already made up decision), or you simply did not investigate it long enough to find out that you could make it do whatever you wanted to (short of those.. ahem.. fine fellows who insist that it not have any metro at all).

This is basically the Windows Mojave experiment all over again. They took people that claimed they hated Windows Vista, put a new skin on it and told them it was the next version of windows, and suddenly they loved it. Despite the fact it worked identically in every way. They even talked about how they liked various features that were "new" (yet they were in Vista). (although obviously Windows 10 does have new features and does operate slightly differently in some ways)

All it goes to show is that lots of people make up their mind about things before they've even used it, and no matter how much you try to show them, they won't change their mind... but give them a placebo and tell them it's a cure for world peace and they'll be all over it.

DRFP · 14 Oct 2014

jimbo45 said:

Hi there

typically works PC's are locked down and users can't add their own software which could make the PC's easier to use.

There's two schools of thought now in providing I.T services for the masses -- a Decent VDI and BYOD or a "classical I.T infrastructure" with locked down PC's etc.

Both have merits and de-merits -- up to the organisation concerned.

The BYOD approach IMO is the one the USERS like - especially if they can use their own MACS at work for example -- Windows runs on Macs easily enough - and with a network VDI you don't even need to install Windows as a VM on the laptop.

I use my own SP3 with this system -- it means I can have things like Office in various Languages too.

Apart from the start button there really is MINIMAL difference in the use between 8.1 and W10 if you set it to boot straight to the desktop. Maybe those businesses that have migrated to W8 haven't done this on their company PC's.

Cheers
jimbo

Yes thats the case I come across, but its Microsoft's fault too, when I fresh installed 10 it was set up for my PC not tablet style like in 8 and 8.1 much better. One of the complaints I read is "The tiles I hate the tiles" you have to remember we are tech people and see this and if we do not want we tweak. But most people using a PC are not tech people, just want to walk up sit down point and click. If you are working on documents (90% of Business use) then you do not want a touch screen for a document PC unless its just check marks type. Writing papers and working with spreadsheets and some data bases you do not want to stare at smudges on the screen from dirty finger prints. This is the part I do not understand all the tech writers and MS seeing, everyday use, PC's are found in more businesses and schools than in homes, home users are migrating tablets more, sure this makes sense, but my wife and I use our pcs for data, picture and other uses a tablet just cannot do. I expect home PC use to continue to decline some but not altogether tank, there will still be a portion of PC users who will still want a powerful platform for uses that a tablet does not do well. I like 10 so far can't wait to see whats next.

DRFP · 14 Oct 2014

Mystere said:

All this really says is that you never really gave Windows 8 an objective look. You made up your mind either before you tried it (and thus trying it just reinforced your already made up decision), or you simply did not investigate it long enough to find out that you could make it do whatever you wanted to (short of those.. ahem.. fine fellows who insist that it not have any metro at all).

This is basically the Windows Mojave experiment all over again. They took people that claimed they hated Windows Vista, put a new skin on it and told them it was the next version of windows, and suddenly they loved it. Despite the fact it worked identically in every way. They even talked about how they liked various features that were "new" (yet they were in Vista). (although obviously Windows 10 does have new features and does operate slightly differently in some ways)

All it goes to show is that lots of people make up their mind about things before they've even used it, and no matter how much you try to show them, they won't change their mind... but give them a placebo and tell them it's a cure for world peace and they'll be all over it.

Please you assume,

I have used windows 8 since the beginning, please do not assume I do not, I think 50 hours a week at work with windows 8 then 8.1 dealing with the difficult features ( IMO), and also have an 8 laptop at home till last night when I converted it 10, this qualifies for me to say "I Hate 8 and 8.1" 10 has not changed my mind

Repeat of why I like, "Out of the BOX Feel", you see being able to create all the shortcuts and add on programs to make windows more usable is a fail. Add ons sometimes do work right after updates and crash sometimes, Really Windows 7 user experience "Out of the Box" was fantastic, it was basically with Vista with improvements.

10 may be 8.1 under the hood but so what? Under the hood may be the most important to you and me but to most users its how easy it is to use! Why do you think people buy American "Sports Cars" that are not really sports cars but look like they are fast? People judge by looks and ease always have and always will.

Tony K · 14 Oct 2014

Desktop or Start - When Sign in or Close apps in Windows 8

Jody Thornton · 14 Oct 2014

Other than the Start Menu and windowed Metro Apps (and OK yes a little better responsiveness), what's the big difference? I find 8.1 still more to my liking at this point, and I was one of those "I'll never run Windows 8, NEVER" types of people...lol. I think it must have been Lenka that helped sell it for me.