Using Win10 beyond 2025

Seen just now on MSN News
Microsoft reveals subscription pricing for using Windows 10 beyond 2025, and it's not cheap

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...barhover&ei=11

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What you need to know
Microsoft has announced the pricing for extended security updates on Windows 10.
Users running Windows 10 beyond October 2025 will not be secure unless they pay for further updates.
Pricing starts at $61 for the first year, $122 for the second year, and $244 for the third year, per device.

Use a workaround for non-compliant hardware to upgrade to Windows 11 then!

If you do that, what's now the position for build upgrades? Are they offered? Do they succeed?

Oh, and MS is missing a trick- just keep doubling the fee each year for, say, 10 years.... (!)
Like the grain of rice on a chessboard..
As the story goes, when chess was presented to a great king, the king offered the inventor any reward that he wanted. The inventor asked that a single grain of rice be placed on the first square of the chessboard. Then two grains on the second square, four grains on the third, and so on. Doubling each time.

The king, baffled by such a small price for a wonderful game, immediately agreed, and ordered the treasurer to pay the agreed upon sum. A week later, the inventor went before the king and asked why he had not received his reward. The king, outraged that the treasurer had disobeyed him, immediately summoned him and demanded to know why the inventor had not been paid. The treasurer explained that the sum could not be paid - by the time you got even halfway through the chessboard, the amount of grain required was more than the entire kingdom possessed.

The king took in this information and thought for a while. Then he did the only rational thing a king could do in those circumstances. He had the inventor killed, as an object lesson in the perils of trying to outwit the king.

Berton said:

Seen just now on MSN News
Microsoft reveals subscription pricing for using Windows 10 beyond 2025, and it's not cheap

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techn...barhover&ei=11

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This is interesting from that link.

"For the first time, Microsoft is also allowing individual users at home to join the extended support program, which will let anyone running Windows 10 pay for extended updates beyond October 2025 for three years. The price is $61 per device, but that price doubles every year for three years. That means the second year will cost you $122 per device, and the third year will cost $244 per device."

This is serious bs for non corporate home users. Total cost $427 and no support after year three anyway.

That price is not far off 50% for a new mid range laptop.

Only small businesses who use Pro or something like that i.e. not on a enterprise GVLK arrangement would take up this deal.

I agree with @Steve C

I have created a Hyper-V VM "clone" of my old laptop W10 for use on my new laptop as it had some legacy software that I could not reinstall but use now and then. This worked perfectly.

So I do not need my old laptop to be W10 really, so I shall do an upgrade to W11 when I get some spare time (making image backup of W10 of course).

However, the reality is most domestic users who do not meet W11 criminal constraints will just ignore W10 EOL and carry on. So long as people properly back up data and make image backups, how big is the risk.

Main risks are
1) harvesting of bank login/amazon/ebay (etc) details - use 2FA to significantly reduce risks
2) ransomware - make image backups.

Unfortunately, I suspect vast majority will not even do above. The people at most risk are predominantly older persons, particularly those prone to confusion or memory lapses.

Whilst I accept MS is a business, MS should truly do the decent thing and offer support free for individuals - it will not really cost them much as they have to do it for corporations anyway.

I hate to say it but if I cannot upgrade my old laptop to W11, I may consider the dreaded "L" word.

Steve C said:

Use a workaround for non-compliant hardware to upgrade to Windows 11 then!

dalchina said:

If you do that, what's now the position for build upgrades? Are they offered? Do they succeed?

An unsupported device receives all cumulative updates, just as a supported one would. But it will never be offered the upgrade to the next version of W11. For that you need to do a manual upgrade and employ a workaround (again).

My System Two over on Eleven Forum (Legacy bios, TPM 1.2, 1st gen i5) has been running Win11 since the launch of W11 21H2, had an in-place upgrade to 22H2 using an ISO and a workaround, then the upgrade to 23H2 with a manual install of the 23H2 enablement package (no workaround needed for that one).

Steve C said:

Use a workaround for non-compliant hardware to upgrade to Windows 11 then!

Already have, 2 Notebooks from 2014. I used the USB drive made by MCT while booted into Win10 and ran the setup.exe while in File Explorer.

The consumer price for ongoing support for the 3 years is yet to be announced, but should follow the same model.

ralphblake2024 said:

Microsoft as always is showing us that they just want more money for what they really should be doing for free

You are saying that MS should provide free Windows 10 support for eternity without any sales taking place to provide the revenue for training support staff.


Denis