Using Win10 beyond 2025

that we did not get a chance to buy a program disk for

- you can freely create one for any Windows 10 build you like. There's a MS tool for that- and a tutorial - click Tutorials at the top.

i just wish my new computer had come with windows 10

Whilst I wouldn't especially advise it, there's (probably) no reason you couldn't install Win 10 on it if you wished.

not being anywhere reasonable in the amount of money they are demanding to support their long running windows 10

- you don't yet know the figure for consumers- but you can expect it to a be a lot more than the $30 or so for which you can get a Win 10 or 11 license (legitimately).

not being anywhere reasonable in the amount of money they are demanding to support their long running windows 10

You do have the option of upgrading even 'incompatible' PCs to Win 11. But you face the same workaround for each build upgrade thereafter.

ralphblake2024 said:

I am reading in the Windows 7 forum people have had no problems using Windows 7, many years after Microsoft had stopped supporting it.

And you'll be reading in the Windows 10 forum that people have no problems using Windows 10 many years after Microsoft have stopped supporting it.


Denis

Try3 said:

And you'll be reading in the Windows 10 forum that people have no problems using Windows 10 many years after Microsoft have stopped supporting it.


Denis

Are such people actually connecting to the Internet. "Many years" from now, there will be threats for which Windows 10 (and Windows 7) are vulnerable.

I hate spending money on maintenance, but. But I use my PC for all my financial management, home banking, and record keeping, private and important legal stuff, as well as the daily drive stuff that we all do on our systems. If my system got breached and all this important stuff got exfiltrated, or my login credentials got stolen, that would potentially cost me centuries of Microsoft support fees.

Computers are already expensive enough like everything else.

1. I bought the Lenovo t440s with Win 10 Pro ex-business for £200. It's now about 9 years old and still fine bar the spring for the SD drive. That's under £30 a year.

2. Expect loads of 'Win 11 incompatible' PCs to be dumped around Oct '25. There should be some good ones.
If you're willing to use the upgrade workaround you could get one.

dalchina said:

1. I bought the Lenovo t440s with Win 10 Pro ex-business for £200. It's now about 9 years old and still fine bar the spring for the SD drive. That's under £30 a year.

2. Expect loads of 'Win 11 incompatible' PCs to be dumped around Oct '25. There should be some good ones.
If you're willing to use the upgrade workaround you could get one.

I just upgraded my 'non-compliant' 2014 Dell Inspiron 7537 laptop to Windows 11 using the appraiserres.dll fix. All works fine except I had to find a later Intel HD graphics driver to satisfy the Core Isolation check since the latest Dell supplied GPU driver was not compliant.

ethanmiller960 said:

Windows 10 is gonna end support? 2025

Ethan,

It's always worth keeping an eye on these for each Windows version in turn.
Windows 10 Home, Pro EoS - v22H2 is the final Version - MSLearn
Windows 11 Home, Pro EoS - MSLearn

These webpages do not reveal the true End-of-Support date for several years down the line because the info provided starts off just referring to current versions [e.g. v22H2] without a word about the whole thing's Retirement date.



There will probably be equivalent webpages for, say, Windows 12 {in the fullness of time}.



All the best,
Denis

From a practical standpoint, as long as an antivirus program stays available one shouldn't have too many issues, have a Win7 still workable.

- as in 3rd party as presumably Defender won't get updates... which might possibly suggest considering a 3rd party firewall too?

dalchina said:

- as in 3rd party as presumably Defender won't get updates... which might possibly suggest considering a 3rd party firewall too?

I agree with dalchina.

Windows security [including Defender] will continue to get malware definition updates but will not get platform updates [i.e. updates to the Defender utility itself].
So somebody who carries on using Windows 10 past its EoS date will be well advised to start using a third-party security utility.
This situation is one of the few for which a third-party security utility is worthwhile.


Denis