PC Health Check - Windows 11

ICIT2LOL · 27 Jun 2021

Am just wondering if my Ivy Bridge CPU has soem form of TPM on board sse pic and any advice would be appreciated.
I got this from Googleing Intel for the CPU.

bobkn · 27 Jun 2021

ICIT2LOL said:

Am just wondering if my Ivy Bridge CPU has soem form of TPM on board sse pic and any advice would be appreciated.
I got this from Googleing Intel for the CPU.

Had to look it up. "Ivy Bridge" is Gen 3, from nearly 10 years ago.

This is what Wikipedia offers on the NX bit: NX bit - Wikipedia

(Nothing to do with Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia.)

If you mention your specific motherboard, I hope that it'd be straightforward to check whether it has some form of TPM. I'm not optimistic that it'd have TMP 2.0, if it had any TPM at all.

bobkn · 27 Jun 2021

Pulcinella said:

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Did run WhyNotWindows11. These is the verdict, screenshot attached.
Is my computer too old or are there some easy fix for dummys to get it 11 ready?
I could see I do not have TPM on my Device Manager, could not get further than that.

Your CPU is an 8th generation I5-8500, and is supported. Your "ultra durable" motherboard means that it's from Gigabyte; supplying the exact model would be helpful. I expect that you can turn on PTT (Platform Trust Technology, Intel's version of TPM) in you BIOS settings.

I have an AMD system with fTPM (firmware TPM). It was diabled by default. After turning it on in the BIOS settings, it appears as a security device in Device Manager.

You'd also need to change your boot method to UEFI (raher than Legacy), your disk partitions to GPT (rather than MBR), and you'd need to turn on Secure Boot. None of those would require new hardware. I wonder what your reasons are for not using them now?

ICIT2LOL · 27 Jun 2021

bobkn said:

Had to look it up. "Ivy Bridge" is Gen 3, from nearly 10 years ago.

This is what Wikipedia offers on the NX bit: NX bit - Wikipedia

(Nothing to do with Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia.)

If you mention your specific motherboard, I hope that it'd be straightforward to check whether it has some form of TPM. I'm not optimistic that it'd have TMP 2.0, if it had any TPM at all.

Well bobkn mate the board has a plug in site and would support 2.0TPM but the problem is the CPU is not on the supported listings

Such a waste of a perfectly good machine that has served me well over the time since I built it!

Ghot · 28 Jun 2021

ICIT2LOL said:

Well bobkn mate the board has a plug in site and would support 2.0TPM but the problem is the CPU is not on the supported listings

Such a waste of a perfectly good machine that has served me well over the time since I built it!

There are ways to install Win 11 on machines where even the CPU isn't supported.

Pulcinella · 28 Jun 2021

bobkn said:

Your CPU is an 8th generation I5-8500, and is supported. Your "ultra durable" motherboard means that it's from Gigabyte; supplying the exact model would be helpful. I expect that you can turn on PTT (Platform Trust Technology, Intel's version of TPM) in you BIOS settings.

I have an AMD system with fTPM (firmware TPM). It was diabled by default. After turning it on in the BIOS settings, it appears as a security device in Device Manager.

You'd also need to change your boot method to UEFI (raher than Legacy), your disk partitions to GPT (rather than MBR), and you'd need to turn on Secure Boot. None of those would require new hardware. I wonder what your reasons are for not using them now?

@bobkn Thanks
I was unable to change boot method from legacy to UEFI. Also i was not able to turn secureboot on.
I never changed or even knew of the existence of the above mentioned.
Those settings came with the computer when I purchased it.

PC Health Check - Windows 11-screenshot-2021-06-28-152125.png

ICIT2LOL · 28 Jun 2021

Ghot said:

There are ways to install Win 11 on machines where even the CPU isn't supported.

Thanks Ghot but I think it is just too complicated for the slightly savvy people like me - I shall just wait until prebuilt machines are being released with Windows 11 preinstalled but it is such a waste of my Ivy Bridge machine that took me some time to build and not to mention the money I spent on it too

Pulcinella · 28 Jun 2021

@bobkn

After browsing the forums posts I can see that I have to go into BIOS and thinker with the required settings. I do not have the paygrade to safely do so.

I too I'll wait till a computer upgrade to get W11. Or an expert friend visit that can personally make those changes required.

bobkn · 28 Jun 2021

Pulcinella said:

@bobkn Thanks
I was unable to change boot method from legacy to UEFI. Also i was not able to turn secureboot on.
I never changed or even knew of the existence of the above mentioned.
Those settings came with the computer when I purchased it.

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I had a quick look at your B360 HD3 manual. The board definitely includes PTT (Intel's firmware TPM). It doesn't give the TPM version mumber, but I'd wager that it's 2.0.

For years, my PCs have had the hard drive partitioned as GPT, and the BIOS configured as UEFI. Secure boot was always on by default. Apparently, whoever configured your PC had some rather conservative ideas about how it should be set up.

If you convert your OS drive to GPT (How to convert MBR to GPT drive to switch BIOS to UEFI on Windows 10 | Windows Central), you ought to be able to enable UEFI and secure boot in the BIOS settings.

If you don't have a backup drive and imaging software (Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition, if it's available in your country), this would be a good time to get them. That would enable you to mess about with an OS upgrade, but give you a means to restore the old OS (and applications and settings) if need be.

bobkn · 28 Jun 2021

Pulcinella said:

@bobkn

After browsing the forums posts I can see that I have to go into BIOS and thinker with the required settings. I do not have the paygrade to safely do so.

I too I'll wait till a computer upgrade to get W11. Or an expert friend visit that can personally make those changes required.

I saw this after another post (39).

My attitude is that I probably can't do anything to the PC's settings that can't be fixed by clearing the CMOS (which restores the defaults) or by restoring an image of the boot drive.

I admit that I've assembled every desktop PC I've owned since 1997. There's a great deal that I don't know. I just learned that all of my current PCs (two desktops and a laptop) have built-in TPM capabilities. The laptop has an Intel Gen 6 CPU, though (unsupported), so it may not be practical to install 11 on it.