PC Health Check - Windows 11

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  1. Posts : 23,298
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4355 (x64) [22H2]
       #21

    lawnmower74 said:
    When i try to download health checker I get this message
    What do i do to get it
    Use a different browser.




    Help with passing the Windows 11 Compatibility Checks | Windows 11 Forum
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  2. Posts : 1,909
    Windows 11 Home 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #22

    I updated the PC Health Check app, and mine won't run it because it says the processor isn't supported on my HP 255 G7 Laptop & HP 550-153w desktop. Should I buy a new computer or can I upgrade the processor? This is very unfair of Microsoft. Windows 10 runs very well on any hardware. The same should apply to Windows 11 for all of Windows 10 users.
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  3. Posts : 2,667
    Windows 11 21H2 (22000.593)
       #23

    Jesse Williams said:
    I updated the PC Health Check app, and mine won't run it because it says the processor isn't supported on my HP 255 G7 Laptop & HP 550-153w desktop. Should I buy a new computer or can I upgrade the processor? This is very unfair of Microsoft. Windows 10 runs very well on any hardware. The same should apply to Windows 11 for all of Windows 10 users.
    It's been 2 days since announcement. it's been just over a week since the leak of an unreleased version. No official version is available yet. This will not be going to computer manufacturers like Dell, HP, etc. (collectively called OEMs) until at least October. it will more than likely not be released to the public to download and install until the end of the year (I'm betting early 2022).

    Worrying about upgrading now, with the mass of shortages in electronic parts for just about everything, with COVID still running rampant even with vaccinations, with the massive shortage of shipping containers for products to get shipped worldwide, and especially when you can use Windows 10 for another 4 years free and clear - no, You should not bother with anything, neither buying a new machine right now nor with trying to upgrade your CPU.

    As for being fair: read this - https://www.microsoft.com/security/b...-to-the-cloud/

    it's not about being fair, it's about protecting systems. Enterprise systems, government systems, and infrastructure systems.

    I live in the USA. Specifically, just outside of Atlanta, GA. You may have heard of this little tidbit of news that happened last month - the Colonial Pipeline shutdown due to ransomware. One of thousands of stories on it can be read here: Cyberattack on U.S. pipeline is linked to criminal gang - Los Angeles Times
    When that story first broke on the airwaves, local gas stations immediately started bumping their prices. Within the first day, price increases of $.25 to $.50 per gallon were all around me. Within the next couple of days prices skyrocketed to $1 more per gallon. But the worst happened when folks started stockpiling that gas - all around me, gas stations were closed because the y ran out of gas.

    No offense, but fair to us end users versus protecting our nation's infrastructure and government and military networks and systems from malicious actors is a no brainer. I'd rather be mad about having to (eventually, within the next 4 year!!!) having to buy a new PC to replace mine than to worry about another round of no gas, and socio-economic breakdowns in society as people start turning violent, all because of a lack of a simple resource. We were lucky this time that it lasted such a short while. but even in that small, 1 week period, with no gas available in the area, even with a lot of people working from home, the collective shit almost hit the fan, violence had already started escalating, and it would have gotten much, much worse if that pipeline had stayed down for much longer than it did.

    I'm not kidding. I've made a similar post here or at elevenforum and I stand behind both: too many people don't know what they are doing (or know but ignore the ramifications) and continue to use unprotected machines and networks even when working from home and accessing enterprise systems. These malicious actors are already talented enough to hack their way in to feeble systems, as evidenced by the numerous stories of big data hacks as well as municipality system hacks in the last 5 years - you think they're gonna just stop?

    Nope. I think that M$ is not doing enough, and that the bar should be raised higher - XP showed the world just how bad the user could get when everyone and their mother ran their default login as full administrator. Then M$ developed Vista, which was resource hungry, and has other issues, but which introduced a new concept that, rather than forcing the end user to run as a limited user account (which everyone should do all the time, anyway), it would limit accounts even with admin privileges for normal activities, and throw a prompt into the mix if actual elevated privileges were needed. It's called UAC. It's basically an emulation of how the real world works - like in Linux, your user can be a part of the group that allows for elevated privileges, via sudo, but you don't go around logging into everything as root.

    UAC is not enough - particularly when the users can still disable it. Or a malicious actor can take control of a machine and then disable it. Since users refuse to learn and make use of proper computing practices, M$ is having to step up its game with a new OS that supposedly (still have my doubts to how effective it's really going to be, but as always, they seem to have grand plans) will bring more security to systems. In the enterprise. In government. In municipalities, in infrastructure.

    And to us.

    So, recap (aka tl;dr:)

    {
    Announced 2 days ago
    Win10 supported through 14 Oct 2025
    Worldwide shortages in chips ++ worldwide shipping issues == higher prices on most things electronics
    }

    All that equates to:

    Just sit back, relax, and wait for the techies and geeks and gurus here and at other sites to figure out what really is going to be truth and what M$ walks back (or backtracks) on before getting upset.

    it's really not worth it at this point.
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  4. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #24

    My PC is all good for Windows 11....

    PC Health Check - Windows 11-pc-can-run-win-11.jpg

    See my system specs below (System One). Motherboard using BIOS TPM, NOT a dedicated TPM module
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  5. Posts : 4,453
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
       #25

    Jesse Williams said:
    I updated the PC Health Check app, and mine won't run it because it says the processor isn't supported on my HP 255 G7 Laptop & HP 550-153w desktop. Should I buy a new computer or can I upgrade the processor? This is very unfair of Microsoft. Windows 10 runs very well on any hardware. The same should apply to Windows 11 for all of Windows 10 users.
    To give a short answer, neither PC has a CPU that's on the current approved list.

    Your desktop has a Gen 4 CPU. Win11 requires a Gen 8 or later. I hope that changes before release.
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  6. Posts : 4,054
    Windows 10 Pro
       #26

    All four of my computers are old, no TPM in sight anywhere, so no windows 11 for me, oh well.

    TC
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  7. Posts : 4,453
    Win 11 Pro 22000.708
       #27

    tcman50 said:
    All four of my computers are old, no TPM in sight anywhere, so no windows 11 for me, oh well.

    TC
    If they're AMD, there may be an fTPM (firmware TPM) option in the BIOS settings. That performs the TPM function without a discrete TPM module. On my AMD desktops, the feature was disabled by default.

    Intel offers the same, but calls it PTT (platform trust technology). It was active on my Lenovo laptop. (CPU is 6th gen, though. Does not qualify.)

    However, if your PCs are old (not Intel Gen 8 CPU or newer), the PC Health Check will declare that your PCs don't meet Win11 hardware requirements. Time will tell whether MS keeps that requirement. I have not read of any justification for that (like CPU instructions that aren't available in older processors, even if they are much better than the stated requirements).

    Running tpm.msc will verify that TPM is available, and its version number.
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  8. Posts : 2,667
    Windows 11 21H2 (22000.593)
       #28

    Additionally, even if M$ sticks to their guns, plenty of techheads around the world will figure out ways around the limitations.

    Nothing really to be worried about for now. And certainly 0 reason to think about buying / building a new machine for Windows 11, unless you were already planning to do so previous to the announcement.
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  9. Posts : 221
    Windows 11 Home x64 2021
       #29

    PC Health Check - Windows 11-screenshot-2021-06-28-083651.png

    Did run WhyNotWindows11. These is the verdict, screenshot attached.
    Is my computer too old or are there some easy fix for dummys to get it 11 ready?
    I could see I do not have TPM on my Device Manager, could not get further than that.
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  10. Posts : 5,899
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 22H2
       #30

    I guess Windows 11 is the best thing to happen in the TPM module market. Now scalpers get the snatch those up and raise prices in feeding off people's fears or misunderstandings of things. Many will be chasing after a module they don't need because their PC already has one in one form or another. Anyway...

    PC Health Check - Windows 11-tpm-craze.jpg

    And here's one for a Gigabyte board for $149.99 from an eBay seller

    For reference I paid $26.99 for my Gigabyte TPM 2.0 module back in 2017...
    PC Health Check - Windows 11-order-placed-tpm-module.jpg
    And as late as last year the price was still 26 bucks!
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