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  1.    10 Mar 2014 #1

    I'm coming to the end of my rope here. Win8.1 32bit OS.

    My audio/video editing needs are relatively simple, yet I only seem to find programs which are insultingly simplistic and don't offer the functions I need; needlessly overly complicated, or they do not work just right and are literally frustrating to use.

    I am in need of a video editing software. It has to not have the 4 main problems that I keep running into, which all of the ones I've tried have to some degree.

    1. Output file sizes:
    If I import a video which is 87mb, my output options shouldn't all be several hundred mb's or a few gb's. Why can't these programs just import and output files which are like-for-like? If I'm cutting parts out of the video, then the resulting file should be just under 87mb. If I'm joining two equal sized videos together on a timeline, then the resulting file should be 174mb (the total of the two 87mb source files).

    2. Output video resolution:
    If my input/source file fills the entire screen when played in full screen, then I don't want my edited file to fill-up a much smaller area in the center of the screen with large black borders around it, and sometimes the loss of visual quality is huge. Again why can't they just do like-for-like? Windows Movie Maker is a swine for doing this.

    3. Quick seeking on the timeline, ability to 'cut'/'split' video into pieces easily:
    Some programs are hard to quickly move through the timeline as the movie is playing in the preview area (I believe this is called seeking, I may be wrong). This can be usefull if you're trying to find a specific point in the video without blindly clicking the timeline at random. Sony Vegas 9's always gives me issues when trying to do this, by not allowing me to seek properly, or jumping my arrow to the start/end of a clip and I have to start seeking all over again.

    Only the old Windows Movie Maker had 'cutting' correctly in my opinion, as it was an easy button to press on the preview window, instead of having to right-click the timeline at just the right spot, or go into the File,Edit,View menus every time you want to cut a part of the video.

    4. Ability to separate audio track and manipulate it:
    I have a downloaded video, and something is seriously wrong with the audio. Not only is it out of sync with the video (which in itself I could probably fix with some faffing around), but it's also decreased in speed. Media Player Classic lets me increase the speed again, but there is no way to save the audio track as such, and I haven't found any other audio/video editing software that would let me increase the speed of the audio.
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  2.    10 Mar 2014 #2
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    Try looking here;
    plus browse the other categories, check ratings and user reviews
    have a field day.
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  3.    11 Mar 2014 #3
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    This is an excellent lossless video editing program. It may not have all your functions but it is very different than other programs.

    Suggest to get the full function trial.
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  4.    14 Mar 2014 #4
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    An excellent source is
    What I did with video I wouldn't call "editing" as it was more basic. But there are excellent free demuxers on that site. So the audio speed/edit in #4 could be accomplished with those. One example is AviDemux. It handles more than avi format. It's not a full blown editor. But it is good for some conversions, slices export/import audio track etc..

    And there are many more.. along with forums on just about everything audio/video related.
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  5.    09 Apr 2014 #5
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    I use TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works 5.

    There's a paid version and a free trial also.

    I've found it to be very good indeed, with more options than most will ever need.

    See here:

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  6.    09 Apr 2014 #6
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    The best all around resource I know for video related forums,tool search, user reviews, capability lists(for example dvd and bluray players) is this site:

    ( Edit: Looks like I already posted this link. Sorry. Delete post if desired. )
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  7.    15 Apr 2014 #7

    Avidemux can act as a lossless editor. http://fixounet.********/avidemux/
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  8.    15 Apr 2014 #8
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    That is interesting Keith. But how do you make it work losslessly - just stay within the same filetype ??
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  9.    16 Apr 2014 #9

    It's easy Wolfgang.

    1. Set the video output to "copy".
    2. Set the audio output to "copy".
    3. Set the output format to match your input format.
    4. Make your edits
    5. Save.

    If you join two files they must have identical formats to be combined losslessly. Cutting out sections is best done on iFrames which you can search for. You can cut elsewhere but the results may have problems at the join.

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  10.    16 Apr 2014 #10

    Perhaps a lot more responses and help if you reposted in the Windows 8 forum?
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