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  1. Join Date : Feb 2016
    Posts : 14
    windows 10
       23 Feb 2016 #441

    JW0914 said: View Post
    Have you looked at the event logs? Used netstat to determine open connections? Used other troubleshooting methods? You can disable BITS, but the underlying problem is still going to be there until you figure out what the issue is, as your experience with BITS is only a symptom of what the actual problem is.

    I'd recommend starting a thread specific to your issue on here, as well on the microsoft answers and technet forums. I don't have the knowledge on how to troubleshoot that specific issue.
    okay...
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  2. Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       23 Feb 2016 #442

    Spidergames said: View Post
    okay...
    BITS by itself only manages the downloading of information intelligently, that is to say while you are using the PC, BITS is given a low priority, either slowing the download activity to a crawl, or completely ceasing the download(s). Once the PC is under low load or idle again, BITS regains normal priority, of which would auto change once user activity is detected by the system. In order for BITS to function, some other application must be downloading information, such as Windows Update, however if no application is downloading information, BITS remains inactive. This is what I meant by BITS being only a symptom of whatever problem you're experiencing.

    However, to ascertain what the underlying problem is, research and troubleshooting will need to be performed. As I've never had a problem like the one you're describing, you'll be better served by creating a separate thread for this specific issue, and I'd strongly recommend creating the same thread on both the TechNet and Microsoft Answers forums.

    • If, while on the Microsoft Answers forum, an MVP posts what is clearly a reply that's been cut and pasted, ignore it and request that they respond with actual input to your thread or to simply move on.
    • Also disregard any advice to reset or refresh your PC, as these three things are common posts from MVPs who are simply wasting users' time, more often than not suggesting things that either are completely erroneous and not helpful, or flat out wrong (such as refreshing/resetting a PC, of which should be the absolute last option and is never needed, as a repair install should be performed as the absolute last option).

    I would recommend, if you can directly pinpoint around the time this began occurring, trying a system restore... this may or may not solve the issue, as it's not known what underlying issue is causing your experience. Until you're able to get troubleshooting help from someone knowledgeable enough to help you, I would disable BITS in services (WinKey +R, then services.msc). You will have to stop the service in order to disable it, however this shouldn't be done permanently - only until you're able to get help diagnosing the underlying issue.
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  3. Join Date : Feb 2016
    Posts : 26
    Win7, Win10
       23 Feb 2016 #443

    Just discovered I got the same issue and registered here...
    HP 2570p with Win7 was working fine. Updating to Win10 faced several errors on the way, so I immediately made a clean re-install. To work on a new system was impossible, it was getting freezed up in not more than some minutes, sometimes in less than a minute. What helped was BIOS upgrade - now it freezes once half an hour, which is already a big progress... :/
    The freezing is not a typical one. It is not just hung up - rather partly paralized. Typically, the pointer starts to "think", and the window driving this thinking to start just stops working. The other windows keep on working entirely or partly. Task manager normally gets unusable and it is not possible to switch off the laptop or restart it other way than making a hard reset. Anyhow, nothing seems to be killing the cpu or memory, I can still browse files in other windows (although rather not execute them) or browse websites (although often without ability to open new tabs). If not restarted (hard reset) it gets worse within the passing time and after some minutes nothing really works, except for the pointer that is always able to move. Last "level" is a blak screen with a movable (not freezed) pointer...
    I checked System Recovery partition if it got extended to 350MB - it is ok. I installed all the drivers from HP site and updated the system - no better. Updated the BIOS - this reduced significantly the freezes' frequency - anyhow, it still happens to often to normally use the system. It freezes on a clean install, on a clean with the drivers, on a clean with drivers and fully updated. And I tried at least 5 clean installs so far... :'(
    Would it be that it just won't talk with HP? Laptop still has a warranty, but HP doesn't give a **** for Win10, as this model was not tested to work with one
    Last edited by Grzegorz; 24 Feb 2016 at 02:49.
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  4. Join Date : Feb 2016
    Posts : 14
    windows 10
       23 Feb 2016 #444

    too bad I cant just buy windows 7, cause I know A mother board 1151 doesn't support it fully... MS made sure it....
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  5. Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       25 Feb 2016 #445

    Grzegorz said: View Post
    Just discovered I got the same issue and registered here...
    HP 2570p with Win7 was working fine. Updating to Win10 faced several errors on the way, so I immediately made a clean re-install. To work on a new system was impossible, it was getting freezed up in not more than some minutes, sometimes in less than a minute. What helped was BIOS upgrade - now it freezes once half an hour, which is already a big progress... :/
    The freezing is not a typical one. It is not just hung up - rather partly paralized. Typically, the pointer starts to "think", and the window driving this thinking to start just stops working. The other windows keep on working entirely or partly. Task manager normally gets unusable and it is not possible to switch off the laptop or restart it other way than making a hard reset. Anyhow, nothing seems to be killing the cpu or memory, I can still browse files in other windows (although rather not execute them) or browse websites (although often without ability to open new tabs). If not restarted (hard reset) it gets worse within the passing time and after some minutes nothing really works, except for the pointer that is always able to move. Last "level" is a blak screen with a movable (not freezed) pointer...
    I checked System Recovery partition if it got extended to 350MB - it is ok. I installed all the drivers from HP site and updated the system - no better. Updated the BIOS - this reduced significantly the freezes' frequency - anyhow, it still happens to often to normally use the system. It freezes on a clean install, on a clean with the drivers, on a clean with drivers and fully updated. And I tried at least 5 clean installs so far... :'(
    Would it be that it just won't talk with HP? Laptop still has a warranty, but HP doesn't give a **** for Win10, as this model was not tested to work with one
    I'd be willing to bet you installed drivers that weren't Win 10 drivers from HP. The only non-Windows 10 drivers that should be installed are your CPU chipset and IMEI drivers (if you have an Intel processor), which also must be the first two drivers installed.
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  6. Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       25 Feb 2016 #446

    Spidergames said: View Post
    too bad I cant just buy windows 7, cause I know A mother board 1151 doesn't support it fully... MS made sure it....
    While certain MBs may need a BIOS update, provided the MB was at least Win 8 compatible, there should be no issue running Windows 10 on it.

    Were you able to get any input on TechNet or on the Microsoft Answers forums?
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  7. Join Date : Feb 2016
    Posts : 14
    windows 10
       25 Feb 2016 #447

    JW0914 said: View Post
    While certain MBs may need a BIOS update, provided the MB was at least Win 8 compatible, there should be no issue running Windows 10 on it.

    Were you able to get any input on TechNet or on the Microsoft Answers forums?

    Microsoft says new processors will only work with Windows 10 | The Verge
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  8. Join Date : Aug 2015
    Posts : 391
    Windows 10 Pro x64 1607
       26 Feb 2016 #448

    My system, and 3 other systems I've built have no issues with Windows 10.

    ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0
    AMD FX-6300
    4 GB GSkill Ripjaws RAM 1333
    Geforce GT 630
    1 TB HDD WD Blue
    600 W power supply
    ASUS DVD Writer

    Also have a build with the ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 with the FX-6300 and 4 GB GSkill Ripjaws X 1600mhz, And also done a build with the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 with a AMD Phenom II X6 1045T and GSkill Ripjaws X 1600 mhz. No freezing or any issues.

    Running Windows 10 PRO X64 1511 10586.104
    I wonder if companies like HP and Dell aren't releasing hardware for 10 or if MS is just completely not caring about driver testing anymore.
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  9. Join Date : Nov 2015
    Posts : 181
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       26 Feb 2016 #449

    You're taking that out of context...

    Due to numerous, and extremely legitimate, reasons, all new processors produced for RTM >2015 (beginning with SkyLake [6th gens]) will only be compatible with Windows 10; however, all processors that RTM <2015 (Broadwell [5th gen]), provided they meet the minimum specs, are compatible with Windows 10.

    Majority of users have never built their own PC or server, so many don't realize a processor is more than just a CPU, offering a plethora of other features, from hardware encryption to more efficient networking, and a whole host of other features. To gain a more complete understanding, check out Intel's website and compare a 3rd or 4th gen CPU to a 6th gen, or different SoCs, such as the J1900 vs the C2750 or the C2750 vs the C2758.
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  10. Join Date : Feb 2016
    Posts : 14
    windows 10
       26 Feb 2016 #450

    JW0914 said: View Post
    You're taking that out of context...

    Due to numerous, and extremely legitimate, reasons, all new processors produced for RTM >2015 (beginning with SkyLake [6th gens]) will only be compatible with Windows 10; however, all processors that RTM <2015 (Broadwell [5th gen]), provided they meet the minimum specs, are compatible with Windows 10.

    Majority of users have never built their own PC or server, so many don't realize a processor is more than just a CPU, offering a plethora of other features, from hardware encryption to more efficient networking, and a whole host of other features. To gain a more complete understanding, check out Intel's website and compare a 3rd or 4th gen CPU to a 6th gen, or different SoCs, such as the J1900 vs the C2750 or the C2750 vs the C2758.
    I'm using a i7-6700k skylake and it also says:This new policy doesn't mean that Windows 7 and 8.1 are no longer supported in general. The two operating systems will continue to get updates through January 14th, 2020 and January 10th, 2023, respectively. But that's only if you're using hardware that was contemporaneous with those operating systems.

    For current PC owners, the detail to note is that Intel's current, sixth generation processors, known as Skylake, are the first that won't support either of the older versions of Windows. (Intel and Microsoft say that the platform and Windows 10 were designed for each other.) Microsoft is phasing in the policy now.

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