Microsoft Store and DX12 seems bad news for PC-gamers

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  1. Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       #21

    This article by Eurogamers is an interesting read on Quantum Break.

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    What went wrong with Quantum Break on PC? Eurogamer.net

    In addition, check out their side by side video comparison of a GTX 970 versus an AMD R390 playing Quantum Break. As seen so far, AMD seems to be taking the lead on DX12 performance, significantly so in this case.

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  2. Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       #22

    Well I guess this comment from Remedy in the guru3d article ends any hopes for the PC version of Quantum Break ever supporting multiple GPU's.

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    Quantum Break Will Not Support Multi-GPUs

    And the PC game has to be upscaled from 720P (Xbox graphics) which of course leads to "fuzzy Quantum Break for PC". The 720P issue is mentioned in the below article as well from digital trends which I guess inspired the title of the article.

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    Quantum Break Is Made Worse by a Broken PC Port | Digital Trends

    And this comment:
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    What a mess!
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  3. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #23

    Well, I managed to score and uber cheap copy of QB, so I'll let you know how it is in actual day to day gaming.

    Considering it took me a ridiculous amount of research just to get my XB1 controller to work (and only if I connect it. Wireless doesn't work at all), it's not really off to a great start.
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  4. Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       #24

    By the "cheap" version do you mean the xbox 1 version? Yes, as some may not know the PC version of Quantum Break is more expensive than the xbox version?????? If you bought the PC version I would assume it would run ok as reports I saw show minimum frames at 58 under full HD with a 980TI. Of course, you would have the 720P scaling issue. Yes, let me know how it is.

    On the Gears of War Ultimate Edition front, there have been about 4 PC patches to date. From the latest news from the game devs, muti gpu is still being worked on and if I interpret the below correctly, maybe in May.

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    [WIN10] Title Update 4 available for Ultimate Edition on Windows 10 - 4/11/2016 | Technical Support and Help | Forums | Gears of War - Official Site

    I would recommend to any PC gamer to buy Win 10 GOW Ultimate Edition simply because of the respect and interest the game devs are exhibiting to their PC customers. Take a look at that thread. These guys are fearless, coming on the site time and time again and answering just about all the PC gamer questions in detail. You don't often see this kind of effort and support from any PC port game devs, never mind one that's been released with UWP issues. BRAVE, CARING souls the GOW game devs are. Hats off to them.
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  5. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #25

    specialkone said:
    By the "cheap" version do you mean the xbox 1 version?
    I managed to snag the PC version for about 66% off. It's definitely not ready for primetime, although I can't tell how much of that is the game and how much of it is the latest Insider build deciding that dwm.exe needs to crash all the time, again.

    Think I'm going to clean install build 11099 tomorrow, as I know that build is stable for gaming, and then I'll play some more QB and report back.

    Early impressions: Great story so far, terrible optimization.
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  6. Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       #26

    Great. If you can get a third party FPS counter overlay to work, please let me know what your actual min frames are in single player.

    As you likely know, this is the thread with the game dev's comments on the current issues. Too long a list to post so I'll just post the link. I noticed they are recommending driver 362 for Nvidia owners. I assume they haven't tested the latest drivers. FYI, 364.96 Hot Fix is working fine for me in GOW, Witcher 3 and Project Cars.

    If you could post a youtube video of single player with an FPS counter that would be awesome. Doesn't matter if you're not as good as Archie was at game play on his Rise of the Tomb Raider video, not to assume you wouldn't be, but I'd only be focusing on the FPS drops.
    http://community.remedygames.com/for...-status-update
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  7. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #27

    specialkone said:
    Great. If you can get a third party FPS counter overlay to work, please let me know what your actual min frames are in single player.

    As you likely know, this is the thread with the game dev's comments on the current issues. Too long a list to post so I'll just post the link. I noticed they are recommending driver 362 for Nvidia owners. I assume they haven't tested the latest drivers. FYI, 364.96 Hot Fix is working fine for me in GOW, Witcher 3 and Project Cars.

    If you could post a youtube video of single player with an FPS counter that would be awesome. Doesn't matter if you're not as good as Archie was at game play on his Rise of the Tomb Raider video, not to assume you wouldn't be, but I'd only be focusing on the FPS drops.
    http://community.remedygames.com/for...-status-update
    I'll see what I can do once I get it working again. After rolling back to 14279, now it just black screens at launch. I've read that there is a third party FPS counter that works, though, so if I can get the game working again, I'll try it out.
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  8. Posts : 2,086
    Windows 11 Pro 64
       #28

    Thanks Blackrose. I believe the FPS counter that works with UWP is Presentmon. I saw this posted by a guru3d member.

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    Quantum Break Performance and Impressions - Guru3D.com Forums

    Seems you can also produce and save a graph of your frame times. I haven't tried Presentmon because with GOW all we had to do was ask and the game dev provided an in game FPS counter in one of their patches.
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  9. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #29

    Alright, I've got PresentMon downloaded and compiled. I'll give it a go tonight.
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  10. Posts : 2,161
    Windows 11 Beta channel
       #30

    Ok, so with everything maxed out, except Volumetric Lighting and Shadows (both on medium), I seem to be averaging about 45-55 FPS with very little stutter (except in the cutscenes, where it's horrible). If I turn those settings up to Ultra, I tend to get about 30-45 FPS with pretty bad stuttering.
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