What am I doing wrong in trying to boot via USB?

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    alphanumeric said:
    Sounds like it glitched on the screen resolution. Way to high for some reason. Usually its the other way around, low resolution with large text. I'd have a second go to see if it was a one time thing.
    It does sound like it is trying to use 4K or some other high Res.....

    Plug in a usb keyboard and mouse if possible , I have read about other issue in WinPe etc where the proper drivers are not loaded lately.
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       #12

    alphanumeric said:
    Sounds like it glitched on the screen resolution. Way to high for some reason. Usually its the other way around, low resolution with large text. I'd have a second go to see if it was a one time thing.
    I decided to install W.8.1 from the File Explorer: I inserted my W.8.1 bootable flash drive, selected 'Sources'>'Setup.exe', (which I understand is different than selecting it from the root folder.) Anyway, the W.8.1 setup box opened, but just as before in miniature. The main difference was that I was able to continue past the updates phase, (with difficulty, & with a magnifying glass) & than came to the box with the choice to select the 'Custom install', which is what I've been looking for. At that point I decided to discontinue & try to resolve the issue of the box sizes first. When I receive some new flash drives I'll do another download of the Windows media tool. If anybody else has any suggestions on this matter I would appreciate them. Thanks guys for all your advice up to now!!
    PS My screen display settings are: 3200 x 1600.
    Last edited by robinpe; 01 Aug 2016 at 06:35.
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  3. Posts : 5,478
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       #13

    I have a retina MacBook Pro (which I have partitioned GPT using an EFI bootloader).

    When I try to install Windows and accidentally pick the old BIOS based installer I get the miniscule boxes (and then it eventually says can't install to this drive). If I install EFI loader then it is all fine. This sounds similar to your issue.

    You may want to check (or remake) your USB key. There is a tutorial here using Rufus which is pretty reliable. USB Flash Drive - Create to Install Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
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  4. Posts : 2,324
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       #14

    robinpe said:
    I decided to install W.8.1 from the File Explorer: I inserted my W.8.1 bootable flash drive, selected 'Sources'>'Setup.exe', (which I understand is different than selecting it from the root folder.) Anyway, the W.8.1 setup box opened, but just as before in miniature. The main difference was that I was able to continue past the updates phase, (with difficulty, & with a magnifying glass) & than came to the box with the choice to select the 'Custom install', which is what I've been looking for. At that point I decided to discontinue & try to resolve the issue of the box sizes first. When I receive some new flash drives I'll do another download of the Windows media tool. If anybody else has any suggestions on this matter I would appreciate them. Thanks guys for all your advice up to now!!
    PS My screen display settings are: 3200 x 1600.
    At a guess I'd say that "Setup" does not apply the usual 200% ? scaling Win8/10 would use at that res on a laptop ,similar to my Surface3 which is always scaled at 150% . There maybe a Setup command-line switch you can use to force the resolution to 800x600 or something more reasonable.?

    Can you not use the Lenovo recovery partition instead ?
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       #15

    Kbird said:
    At a guess I'd say that "Setup" does not apply the usual 200% ? scaling Win8/10 would use at that res on a laptop ,similar to my Surface3 which is always scaled at 150% . There maybe a Setup command-line switch you can use to force the resolution to 800x600 or something more reasonable.?

    Can you not use the Lenovo recovery partition instead ?
    Thanks for suggestions guys!
    I thought I might add that 2 hours ago I successfully dual booted my larger Acer laptop. I had already set aside a partition G: from my C: hard-drive in the amount of 50GB's. It was already using W.8.1 & I had no problem setting up W.10 as well. I might add I didn't have to change any priorities in the BIOS/UEFI, as I said before I selected 'setup.exe from the 'Sources' folder of my USB flash drive in File Explorer, (as suggested by Shawn Brink in one of his tutorials), & that gave me the opportunity of selecting the 'Custom: Install' necessary for dual-booting. I am in the process of setting up all my files, etc. but I thought I must answer your suggestions first.
    Kbird, I can set the resolution at anything I want, but will that affect the setting-up procedure for W.8.1?
    If I'm understanding you correctly I have the text, etc. scaled at 225%, can a change in this apply to setting up W.8.1?
    lxO7, I didn't understand what you were getting at. I do know that when I went into the BIOS/UEFI of my Lenovo Ultrabook after I had inserted my bootable W.8.1 USB flash drive. Under EFI, I changed the position of EFI USB Device (Generic USB Storage), to above Windows Boot Manager. But I don't know why I did it. I'm not too familiar with the BIOS procedures. Thanks again guys. Please remember I'm 83 years old today, (2nd Aug.) & a bit slow on the uptake everyday!!
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  6. Posts : 2,324
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       #16

    Some Programs are not what is known as High DPI Aware, so at resolutions above 1920 x 1080 they don't adjust themselves and you end up with teenie dialog boxes ,menus etc. ( At 4k you have 4x the pixels on-screen vs 1920 res.) I ran into this yesterday installing Office 2007 on a Surface 3 though not as extreme as your issue at 4k.

    I am not sure if Win 10 has a Setup switch to set the res. or not?

    PS. Happy Birthday ! :)
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  7. Posts : 51
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       #17

    Kbird said:
    Some Programs are not what is known as High DPI Aware, so at resolutions above 1920 x 1080 they don't adjust themselves and you end up with teenie dialog boxes ,menus etc. ( At 4k you have 4x the pixels on-screen vs 1920 res.) I ran into this yesterday installing Office 2007 on a Surface 3 though not as extreme as your issue at 4k.

    I am not sure if Win 10 has a Setup switch to set the res. or not?

    PS. Happy Birthday ! :)
    Thanks for the birthday wishes Kbird. I'm pretty sure I can set the resolution on the Lenovo Ultrabook Pro to quite a few different settings. What setting do you suggest I set it at?
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    I did not find any command-line switches after a quick google to set the Setup Resolution , Win10 may just use the "Native resolution" that the Laptop will report to win10 setup when it asks , unfortunately Setup does not appear to apply Scaling automatically too which at 4k would be 250% ?

    Are you able to Use Assistive Technology (Ease Of Access Button )during the install ? if so you should be able to turn on the Magnifier Option after clicking the 3/4 Clock ? Icon (middle icon) like in the RH Corner in the image below.




    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-use-magnifier


    Commandline Switches : these are what I found but there maybe hidden switches too ?

    Windows 10 Setup Command Line Switches Home is where i lay my head

    Windows Setup Command-Line Options
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  9. Posts : 51
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    Thread Starter
       #19

    Kbird said:
    I did not find any command-line switches after a quick google to set the Setup Resolution , Win10 may just use the "Native resolution" that the Laptop will report to win10 setup when it asks , unfortunately Setup does not appear to apply Scaling automatically too which at 4k would be 250% ?

    Are you able to Use Assistive Technology (Ease Of Access Button )during the install ? if so you should be able to turn on the Magnifier Option after clicking the 3/4 Clock ? Icon (middle icon) like in the RH Corner in the image below.




    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...-use-magnifier


    Commandline Switches : these are what I found but there maybe hidden switches too ?


    Windows 10 Setup Command Line Switches Home is where i lay my head

    Windows Setup Command-Line Options

    Thanks again for those tips Kbird. Now I'm having real problems: 'The blue screen of death' 3 times. So now I've got to try & work out what's causing that. I may have to do a factory reset & start from scratch. Upgrading to W.10 has brought me nothing but grief on this Ultrabook.
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  10. Posts : 2,324
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       #20

    did you google the BSOD numbers ? it's unlikely you are the 1st one with that Code , so worth a search.

    installing a BlueScreen Viewer like below may help identify the issue

    Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.

    you maybe right , it may be easier to do a factory reestore and start again , especially now the Win10 Anniv. Update is here , which is a massive download in itself.
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