Simple hardware (CPU) question:

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  1. Posts : 1,255
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       #11

    Up to Windows 7 NX was recommended but not required. Starting with Windows 8 it was required. PAE is often specified as a requirement but it is a prerequisite for NX. You can't have NX without PAE. All 64 bit CPUs support NX. The CPU must also support the SSE2 instruction set.

    Windows 8.1 added the requirement that the CPU must support the CMPXCHG16b instruction for a 64 bit OS. All these requirements have been carried over to Windows 10.

    Most CPUs in computers capable of running Windows 7 have these necessary features. But there are some exceptions.
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       #12

    I had retired all of my old P4 machines long before Windows 8 came out, so that is why I never ran into the problem and remained ignorant!
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    JJewell said:
    Is there any such thing as a Pentium 4, Socket 478 CPU that meets all of the requirements to run Windows 10?
    If there is, which one would it be? Socket 478 responses only please.
    Hmm, I think the problem is that while it is a simple question, it is a highly specific CPU question.

    Anyway, the answer seems to be yes. http://processorfinder.intel.com
    Tick off the search terms for - Type 478 socket - Intel 64 support - Execute Disabled Bit.
    And the winner is, Pentium 4 Prescott, No. 511 Intel 4 Processor 511 (1M Cache, 2.80A GHz, 533 MHz FSB) Specifications
    On amazon and ebay for around $30.

    I had a similar situation upgrading a Dell with a P4 (easier because I had a 775 socket).
    Anyway, turns out some early P4 Prescott chips do run 64 & NX, but don't report it correctly, thus all the confusion.
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       #14

    HalS said:
    Hmm, I think the problem is that while it is a simple question, it is a highly specific CPU question.

    Anyway, the answer seems to be yes. http://processorfinder.intel.com
    Tick off the search terms for - Type 478 socket - Intel 64 support - Execute Disabled Bit.
    And the winner is, Pentium 4 Prescott, No. 511 Intel 4 Processor 511 (1M Cache, 2.80A GHz, 533 MHz FSB) Specifications
    Hate to burst your bubble but that CPU is a socket 775 CPU, not a 478.
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       #15

    Carsomyr said:
    Hate to burst your bubble but that CPU is a socket 775 CPU, not a 478.
    Eh, Intel says they shipped that CPU in both socket 478 and 775 sockets.
    Pics of the processors for sale show some are 478, some are 775.


    Intel 4 Processor 511 (1M Cache, 2.80A GHz, 533 MHz FSB) Specifications

    Ordering and Spec Information

    Retired and Discontinued

    Spec Code Ordering Code Step ECCN CCATS US HTS RCP Socket TDP
    Boxed Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 511 (1M Cache, 2.80A GHz, 533 MHz FSB) mPGA 478
    SL7D8 BX80546PE2800E C1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 95 W
    SL7K9 BX80546PE2800E D1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 120 W
    SL7E2 BX80546PE2800E D1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 84 W
    SL7PK BX80546PE2800E E1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 84 W
    SL88G BX80546PE2800E E0 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 84 W
    SL8JX BX80546PE2800E G1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 95 W
    Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 511 (1M Cache, 2.80A GHz, 533 MHz FSB) mPGA 478, Tray
    SL7K9 RK80546PE0721M D0 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 115 W
    SL7KA RK80546PG0721M D0 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 115 W
    SL88H RK80546PG0721M E1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 95 W
    SL8JX RK80546PE0721M G1 N/A PPGA478 84 W



    Anyway, I had a 775 pin Prescott in a Dell 5150 that I updated to Win-10. I ran into a problem was that although the processor actually HAD the NX and 64bit commands, it didn't report them to the Win-10 installation program, so it would install the 32bit version of Win10, but not the 64bit version.

    Probably not an issue for the OP, I assume they just want to get the 32bit version of Win10 loaded.
    Last edited by HalS; 04 May 2016 at 08:46.
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  6. Posts : 12
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       #16

    Carsomyr said:
    JJewell said:
    Is there any such thing as a Pentium 4, Socket 478 CPU that meets all of the requirements to run Windows 10?
    If there is, which one would it be? Socket 478 responses only please.

    Hate to burst your bubble but that CPU is a socket 775 CPU, not a 478.
    Hey, good question, actually, now that I think about it, same processor in different sockets....

    Looks like the OP might have an even better answer. Yes, there are P4 socket 478 CPU that will run Windows 10.
    But they're scarce because they originally cost $1,000, and they might not work with your specific computer's bus and cache setup.

    Appears there were actually a few Pentium 4 extreme chips made for 478 sockets!
    Pentium 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting HT Technology 3.40 GHz, 2M Cache, 800 MHz FSB Specifications

    Ordering and Spec Information

    Retired and Discontinued

    Spec Code Ordering Code Step ECCN CCATS US HTS RCP Socket TDP
    Boxed Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting HT Technology 3.40 GHz, 2M Cache, 800 MHz FSB, mPGA 478
    SL7CH BX80532PG3400F M1 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PPGA478 102.9 W
    Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting HT Technology 3.40 GHz, 2M Cache, 800 MHz FSB, LGA775, Tray
    SL7GD JM80532PG0962M M6 3A991.A.1 NA 8473301180-MPU N/A PLGA478 102.9 W
    Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor Extreme Edition supporting HT Technology 3.40 GHz, 2M Cache, 800 MHz FSB, mPGA 478, Tray
    SL7CH RK80532PG0962M M0 N/A PPGA478 70 W


    Yikes big problem is the $70 - $180 price tag for a P4EE used processor!
    Last edited by HalS; 04 May 2016 at 08:41.
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