Samsung 950 Pro M.2

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  1. Posts : 3,264
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       #21

    fdegrove said:
    Hi,



    From what I've read about it, it's not so much a chipset matter but rather a bios support matter.
    Obviously, since this is relatively new, you'd rather find NVMe support on new boards were bios updates are more active than on older boards that have been superceded.

    Cheers,
    Says so on F6 BIOS, but again i can only get up to 10 Gb/'s no matter what.
    http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...?pid=5138#bios
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  2. Posts : 2,832
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       #22

    Hi,

    Says so on F6 BIOS, but again i can only get up to 10 Gb/'s no matter what.
    Sure but at least there's support for the protocol which allows booting from the drive.
    Maximum performance is possibly still limited by other hardware controllers. An important one being the DMI chipset which is limited to 2Gb/s on most Intel based boards for now.

    Either way, I consider 10Gb/s stellar performance, don't you ? :)

    Cheers,
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  3. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
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       #23

    fdegrove said:
    Hi,



    Sure but at least there's support for the protocol which allows booting from the drive.
    Maximum performance is possibly still limited by other hardware controllers. An important one being the DMI chipset which is limited to 2Gb/s on most Intel based boards for now.

    Either way, I consider 10Gb/s stellar performance, don't you ? :)

    Cheers,
    Yeah, but not when your buying a drive meant to perform at 32 Gb/s and spending that money for it. I believe my board was meant more for older M.2's before Samsung 950 Pro.
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  4. Posts : 2,832
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #24

    Hi,

    I believe my board was meant more for older M.2's before Samsung 950 Pro.
    That's what I think as well. I haven't gone through all the specs ofyour board but it sounds as if it's capped by PCIe Gen 2 limitations.
    I could well be wrong though.

    I know that you could go up to the theoretical 32Gb/s limit with the latest bios updates and adaptor cards offered for all Asus boards sporting either an X99 chipset or a Z97.

    There's also a MB manufacturer which offers boosted M2 ports. I think it's MSI, haven't checked that yet.

    No idea how well those perform in real life though.


    Cheers,
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  5. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
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       #25

    fdegrove said:
    Hi,



    That's what I think as well. I haven't gone through all the specs ofyour board but it sounds as if it's capped by PCIe Gen 2 limitations.
    I could well be wrong though.

    I know that you could go up to the theoretical 32Gb/s limit with the latest bios updates and adaptor cards offered for all Asus boards sporting either an X99 chipset or a Z97.

    There's also a MB manufacturer which offers boosted M2 ports. I think it's MSI, haven't checked that yet.

    No idea how well those perform in real life though.


    Cheers,
    As you can see on this M.2 QVL list for my board, Samsung's listed are not 950 Pro, but older Gen 3 models

    Samsung 950 Pro M.2-untitled.jpg
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  6. Posts : 2,832
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #26

    Hi,

    I suppose this is the one you're running now : Samsung MZ-V5P256BW ?

    With an MTBF of 1.500.000 hours I think you'll have changed the current MB for a more compatible one long before the drive dies, right ?

    If it's any consolation, using my current MB it'll likely not even be bootable......

    Cheers,
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  7. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #27

    fdegrove said:
    Hi,

    I suppose this is the one you're running now : Samsung MZ-V5P256BW ?

    With an MTBF of 1.500.000 hours I think you'll have changed the current MB for a more compatible one long before the drive dies, right ?

    If it's any consolation, using my current MB it'll likely not even be bootable......

    Cheers,
    No, have it all wrong, my original post was asking thoughts on M.2 and the new Samsung Pro 950 as i do not have one, was questioning and thinking about getting one, but after research it seems limited for me to buy this new model Samsung. Check my specs.
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  8. Posts : 2,832
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #28

    Hi,

    Check my specs.
    I did but thought you hadn't changed them yet.
    So I assumed you had it running and had benchmarked it. No big deal really.
    But short of trying it out or asking questions on perhaps the MB manufacturer's forum it's hard to tell with so little information on these drives for now.

    You know, that QVL list is just what they certify to work.
    Since the MB supports NVMe protocol, X99 and will use the PCIe Gen 3 bandwidth and so on it might well be worth it to at least ask around. Up to you of course but that's what I'd do.

    Over here in Europe those drives sell for roughly 200$ including VAT. While not exactly cheap it's still extremely good value.

    Sorry about the misunderstanding,
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  9. Posts : 3,264
    Windows 11 Pro 64 bit Version 21H2
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       #29

    fdegrove said:
    Hi,



    I did but thought you hadn't changed them yet.
    So I assumed you had it running and had benchmarked it. No big deal really.
    But short of trying it out or asking questions on perhaps the MB manufacturer's forum it's hard to tell with so little information on these drives for now.

    You know, that QVL list is just what they certify to work.
    Since the MB supports NVMe protocol, X99 and will use the PCIe Gen 3 bandwidth and so on it might well be worth it to at least ask around. Up to you of course but that's what I'd do.

    Over here in Europe those drives sell for roughly 200$ including VAT. While not exactly cheap it's still extremely good value.

    Sorry about the misunderstanding,
    That was the OP that listed specs as they put in a M.2. Already spoke directly to Gigabyte, Samsung 950 Pro will work, just be capped at 10G/s. All in all i will stay with my Samsung 850 Pro SSD for now with this board.
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  10. Posts : 1,113
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       #30

    It is not "capped" at 10 G/s. The 32 GB/s, this is the limit of the pcie interface on some mobo's, not the actual drive itself. The advertised speed of the 512 GB version is 2500 mb/s read and 1500 mb/s write. Here is the Samsung spec sheet...
    Samsung SSD 850 PRO Specifications | Samsung SSD says 850 but it is 950 specs

    You will not come close to saturating that with a 10 GB/s interface, let alone a 32 GB/s one.

    Here is a pic of a 60 Gb file transfer between two 950 pros (512 gb versions) on my Asrock Extreme 7+, both drives are in M2 sockets and using the Samsung NVMe drivers...




    Here is Samsung magician with link speeds



    I am not obviously saying you should run out and buy the drive. But don't get caught up in 10 Gb/s versus 32 Gb/s link speeds, either would suffice to get maximum performance from the 950.
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