USB connection question for external HD

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  1. Posts : 47
    Win10 Home x64 2oH2 Version 2009 (build 19042.685)
       #1

    USB connection question for external HD


    Hi,

    (Windows ver 21H2, build 19044.1466 )

    QUESTION:
    Is transfer speed faster (or the same) with …

    USB Type-C port, with USB 3.2 Gen 2 support
    -or with-
    USB Type-A port, with USB 3.2 Gen 2 support

    DETAILS - and said differently....
    Photographer looking for the best bang for the buck for an 8-10TB Ext HD
    Thunderbolt connection – too expensive
    SSD – too expensive

    Does the connection and cable type affect the speed (if the ports both support USB 3.2 gen 2)?

    HOST
    MoBo: GB z490 Vision D

    Three types of connections are available
    2 x Thunderbolt™ 3 connectors (USB Type-C™ port, with USB 3.2 Gen 2 support)
    2 x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A ports (red)
    4 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports

    DESTINATION (3' away) & CABLE - to be determined (that's why I'm here - lol)

    Thanks in advance.
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  2. Posts : 2,137
    Windows 11 Pro (latest update ... forever anal)
       #2

    Also dependent on other hardware factors, program(s) used, and other device activity at the time.

    Best way ... test and time a sample yourself
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  3. Posts : 47
    Win10 Home x64 2oH2 Version 2009 (build 19042.685)
    Thread Starter
       #3

    idgat said:
    Also dependent on other hardware factors, program(s) used, and other device activity at the time.
    Best way ... test and time a sample yourself
    Well, thanks. That would certainly answer the question --once I have a new external drive in hand (as long as I don't buy the wrong one) and a couple of different cables to test. I suppose I could buy two cables to keep one and return the other. I'm thinking that the header and cable issues would determine the external drive to get.

    I am now looking at --> this cable and anticipate connecting it to the Thunderbolt 3 header which is a USB Type-C™ port, with USB 3.2 Gen 2 support.

    I'm trying to (1) buy the right external HDD and (2) the right cable to (3) connect to the best header in order to achieve 20Gbps instead of 10Gbps.

    I hope for experienced insight and guidance.

    Thanks.
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  4. Posts : 2,800
    Windows 7 Pro
       #4

    Hi,

    Nearly all High-End Hard disks will top at 150-180 MB/s on a SATA connection anyway, even 15k HDDs top at 320... So USB 2 is enough in all cases...

    You Need to go SSD to make a real difference.
    Last edited by MaloK; 26 Jan 2022 at 19:45.
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  5. Posts : 47
    Win10 Home x64 2oH2 Version 2009 (build 19042.685)
    Thread Starter
       #5

    MaloK said:
    Hi,
    You Need to go SSD to make a real difference.
    Thank you.
    I'm learning that a HDD spinning at 7200 is a major limiting factor.
    I've been focusing on things that are not relevant.
    I'll just have to get used to overnight backups instead of faster ones.
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  6. Posts : 21,421
    19044.1586 - 21H2 Pro x64
       #6

    DrCarl said:
    Thank you.
    I'm learning that a HDD spinning at 7200 is a major limiting factor.
    I've been focusing on things that are not relevant.
    I'll just have to get used to overnight backups instead of faster ones.
    HDDs still have there place. I can afford a 6TB HDD for backups and archival storage, but I'm not burning $$$ on a 6TB SSD at today's prices.
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  7. Posts : 2,800
    Windows 7 Pro
       #7

    Personally I prefer Good old Platters for Backups.
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  8. Posts : 525
    Windows 10
       #8

    MaloK said:
    Hi,
    Nearly all High-End Hard disks will top at 150-180 MB/s on a SATA connection anyway, even 15k HDDs top at 320... So USB 2 is enough in all cases...
    You Need to go SSD to make a real difference.
    The maximum theoretical speed of a USB 2.0 link is 60 MB/s. The corresponding speed for a USB 3.0 (5 gigabits/s) link is 625 MB/s, and for a USB 3.2 (Gen. 2, 10 gigabits/s) is 1250 MB/s.

    For a HDD, a USB 3.0 link is more than enough, the limiting factor is the HDD. To take advantage of USB 3.0, a SATA SSD is needed. To take advantage of a Gen. 2 link, a NVMe SSD is needed.

    A USB 2.0 link should never be used for any data transfer, it´s too slow.
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  9. Posts : 2,800
    Windows 7 Pro
       #9

    @Anibor, I stand corrected... USB 3 would be required to harness the full speed of a SATA HDD.
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  10. Posts : 2,189
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit v22H2
       #10

    USB speeds are dependent upon specification not connector types.

    USB connection question for external HD-usb-speeds.jpg

    For flash drives and external hard drives USB 3.0 is faster than USB 2.0 for sequential reading/writing. However, for random reading/writing USB 3.0 and USB 2.0 are about the same.

    USB connection question for external HD-flash-hard-drive-2.jpg

    For an external M.2 SATA SSD USB 3.1 is faster than USB 3.0 for sequential reading/writing. For random reading/writing they are about the same. Note the sequential speeds for USB 3.1 are probably maxing out the SATA interface. Compare these with the speeds for an internal M.2 SATA SSD.

    USB connection question for external HD-ssd-sata-2.jpg

    For an external M.2 NVME SSD USB 3.1 is about double USB 3.0 for sequential reading/writing. For random reading/writing they are about the same. Note the sequential speeds for USB 3.1 are not maxing out the NVME interface.

    USB connection question for external HD-ssd-nvme-2.jpg

    An internal M.2 NVME SSD read/write speeds compared to two internal 3.5-inch SATA hard drives (7200 RPM).

    USB connection question for external HD-darkmater-internal.jpg

    The read/write speeds of three external 3.5-inch hard drives. All are using USB 3.0 connections.

    USB connection question for external HD-darkmater-external.jpg
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