MS mouse: unable to slow down double-click response


  1. Posts : 373
    Windows 10 Home 21H2
       #1

    MS mouse: unable to slow down double-click response


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    I have Dell XPS 17 9710, in Win 10 Home 21H2

    I have shaky hands, so when I single-click on my MS mouse, the response sometimes corresponds to a double-click.

    In Control Panel > Mouse, the current setting is on extreme left.

    If I deliberately try to do a fast double click, the indicator still reacts positively.

    On all my previous Dells, I was able to increase the minimum acceptable interval between clicks to about 2 clicks per second, at a slider position of ~20%.

    I would be grateful for any advice.

    Thanks
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  2. TV2
    Posts : 2,221
    W10 Pro 22H2
       #2

    Does moving the click speed slider in any direction change the mouse behavior at all?

    We need to determine if this is a case of the settings not having any effect, or that the slowest possible setting is not slow enough on the new Dell.
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  3. Posts : 373
    Windows 10 Home 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #3

    TV2 said:
    Does moving the click speed slider in any direction change the mouse behavior at all?
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    Yes.

    In fact, the easiest way to prove that is simply to do the steps that I would normally use on any new laptop - adjust the double-click speed as follows:

    - Start > Control Panel > Mouse
    - Slider: AFAIK, the original position on a new laptop is 100%. So, set to 100%

    As in any test, we need to define SUCCESS in advance. In my case, success means that the door opens or closes on the SECOND click of a double click. So the interval must be greater than the interval between an intended single click followed immediately by an involuntary twitch.

    Using the seconds timer on my sys tray, tap the door twice per second.

    For me, the max position has always behaved erratically - it will either respond erratically or it will not respond at all. So, arrow left to move the slider to the next lower position. (BTW: This erratic behaviour at 100% does not inspire confidence in the code behind. On analog devices, we expect pointers to stick at the extremities - hence the tapping on glass.)

    In my case, the door does not respond to the second click. So arrow left again. Repeat until the door responds to the second click.. That represents SUCCESS for a user who is deliberately trying to click slowly.

    For me, on this Dell XPS, the door responds with the slider at 50%. Previous Dells (and an Asus) responded at 20-40%. So I moved one further click to the left for luck. That's 40% (it's a 10% increment per click)

    If I had simply stopped there and done something useful, this post would never have been written.

    However, I then moved the slider to the extreme left, and clicked very fast on the door. The door responded to every click, as mentioned in my OP.

    In fact, the door responded to FAST clicking at EVERY position of the slider.

    I'm not a techie, but it seems to me that when the slider moves to the left, the code respects each change (apart from the erratic behaviour at 100%) and decrements a counter.

    But when the slider is moving to the right, the same code is executed repeatedly - without respecting the change in the slider position. So the mouse behaviour never changes - the door always open/closes irrespective of the slider position.

    Thanks
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  4. TV2
    Posts : 2,221
    W10 Pro 22H2
       #4

    Well I'll be....

    I just tested this on my system and you are correct. The position of the slider in the Mouse settings is not having the expected effect on the click speed. It is the same no matter where you put it.
    I tested with 2 mice, my cheap Microsoft mouse for everyday use, and my more accurate wireless mouse. No difference with either.

    I don't have a ready answer. This will take some looking into.

    EDIT: on further testing it seems that the position of the slider does affect the mouse clicks. But it only changes how slowly you can click. It doesn't seem to change how quickly you can click.
    If you set the slider all the way to the left then you can click very slowly - about one per second as you say - and it works. But if you fast click it still works.
    If you set the slider all the way to the right then you must click very fast to get it to work. But any slow clicks do not work.

    So it seems that the settings do not allow us to accomplish what you need: limit the double click to slow only.
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  5. TV2
    Posts : 2,221
    W10 Pro 22H2
       #5

    I found software that seems to address the problem. You could try it.
    Please be aware that I have never tried this program, so I can't promise it will work as you expect it to.

    The program is from Github, which is well know and currently a subsidiary of Microsoft.

    As I read it, you can put this program .exe file on a USB thumb drive and run it from there. It does not install onto your PC like typical software. You could do this to test it out and move the file to your hard drive/desktop afterward if you are pleased with it.
    It sounds like you have to run it each time you start your PC. There might be a setting that makes it run automatically but you won't know that until you try it.


    Github link:
    GitHub - CemraJC/clickfix: Stop annoying repeat clicks - tame your mouse
    Easy download link:
    ClickFix - Stop unwanted double clicks (Windows Only)
    Screenshot and source (scroll way down to see the Clickfix solution)
    Mouse Keeps Double Clicking? 9 Fixes to Try
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  6. Posts : 373
    Windows 10 Home 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #6

    @TV2 :

    Thanks for all your work. Maybe MS might notice this post.

    To be fair, the current settings allow slow double-clicking, which would have prevented many of the serious mousing injuries that I've seen in my life as a contractor in about 30 companies.

    Some other tricks:

    - I switch the mouse position (left or right of laptop) about once a week. And no, I don't switch buttons - takes too much time. I simply think "left-click, right-click" rather than "forefinger, middle finger". So tutorials don't need to be translated.

    - My MS mouse is about one inch longer than a normal MS mouse. That means that my fingers can't reach the buttons if my fingers are in the normal "crook" position. The crooked finger is one cause of injuries. My fingers are almost straight. The other cause of injuries is fast tapping. The longer mouse automatically prevents fast tapping because of the increased torque and angular momentum. If I use someone else's normal-sized mouse, my fingers are now automatically straight. So they overhang the ends of the buttons by about 3/4 inch, but I still prefer to keep my fingers straight.

    Thanks
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