My PC has unexpected hard resets

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  1. Posts : 5,169
    64bit Win 10 Pro ver 21H2
       #11

    Sorry to hear you are still having the hard resets and even after completing all the detailed hardware tests it looked certain we were dealing with hardware. However, we can't rule out software and indeed w10 can be troublesome on some systems. There have been a number of recent updates to W10 and the most recent is ver 1607 build 14393.82 Can you confirm if you have the most recent installed? The Settings -> System About page will show this info.
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  2. Posts : 25
    Windows 10
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       #12

    philc43 said:
    Sorry to hear you are still having the hard resets and even after completing all the detailed hardware tests it looked certain we were dealing with hardware. However, we can't rule out software and indeed w10 can be troublesome on some systems. There have been a number of recent updates to W10 and the most recent is ver 1607 build 14393.82 Can you confirm if you have the most recent installed? The Settings -> System About page will show this info.
    Yes, recently updated to the W10 Anniversary Update. I have confirmed as per your instruction the install is ver. 1607 Build 14393.82. As you might infer from my previous posts. I have done a number of re-installs and run with a clean system on occasion, i.e. no installed programs or anti-virus. I am pretty sure it is a hardware thing too. I appreciate the assistance from you guys. I have been associated with these forums since the days of Sevenforums, and while I haven't been active lately I know the good work you guys do and the invaluable help and assistance you always extend. If you wonder why I persevere with this problem it is because I need to know what is wrong, as a learning experience, and because no PC is going to get the better of me. If I can solve it the knowledge might help somebody else.
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  3. Posts : 81
    W8.1 x64
       #13

    Hello, I have a question and an idea, if you don't mind :)
    Is the computer plugged directly into the power outlet or is there an extension cord between them?
    If there is, please try plugging the PC directly into the outlet, try another outlet, and try another extension cord.
    I'm saying this, because I have had a very similar issue just a few weeks ago, and it took me and eight engineers more than a month to figure that one out. I was frustrated, and it turned out to be the extension cord.
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  4. Posts : 25
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #14

    softwaremaniac said:
    Hello, I have a question and an idea, if you don't mind :) Is the computer plugged directly into the power outlet or is there an extension cord between them? If there is, please try plugging the PC directly into the outlet, try another outlet, and try another extension cord. I'm saying this, because I have had a very similar issue just a few weeks ago, and it took me and eight engineers more than a month to figure that one out. I was frustrated, and it turned out to be the extension cord.
    Thank you. It is plugged into a power pack. I will try your suggestion and let you know.
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  5. Posts : 25
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #15

    NormCameron said:
    Thank you softwaremaniac. It is plugged into a power pack. I will try your suggestion and let you know.
    My PC was was plugged into a power pack, also on the power pack is my Modem, monitor and printer. I now run the PC on a single outlet and the other items on a separate outlet. While it didn't unfortunately resolve my problem your notion has considerable merit, as my PSU has the theoretical capability to draw up to 1350w under load (whether it does or not I don't know) and powerpacks are are notoriously unreliable. It therefore makes considerable sense to ensure there are no problems with the power source as a first step, which incidentally I didn't do. While in this instance it didn't resolve the issue I intend to adopt your suggestion as it is both sensible and sound. Thank you.
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  6. Posts : 81
    W8.1 x64
       #16

    This should not be done. I strongly advise against using separate outlets for PC equpment as it's been known to cause stability issues. Please try using your PC with no accessories, just the PC on a single outlet and let me know the results. I know thist might be a pain, but we need to get to the bottom of this issue somehow.
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  7. Posts : 25
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #17

    softwaremaniac said:
    This should not be done. I strongly advise against using separate outlets for PC equpment as it's been known to cause stability issues. Please try using your PC with no accessories, just the PC on a single outlet and let me know the results. I know thist might be a pain, but we need to get to the bottom of this issue somehow.
    As I said in my reply I have accepted your advice. It hasn't made a difference but your advice is both logical and sound. Again Thank you.
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  8. Posts : 81
    W8.1 x64
       #18

    Aha, so that didn't help, okay, could you check the wiring in your house and check that particular power outlet to which your PC is connected to, and by check I mean voltages, any burn marks and such. I'm suspecting a power issue because you've swapped everything in the PC and it made no difference, so it has to be something environmental, so to speak.
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  9. Posts : 81
    W8.1 x64
       #19

    Also, when you swapped the PSU, did you change the power cable? If not, please do so.
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  10. Posts : 25
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #20

    softwaremaniac said:
    Aha, so that didn't help, okay, could you check the wiring in your house and check that particular power outlet to which your PC is connected to, and by check I mean voltages, any burn marks and such. I'm suspecting a power issue because you've swapped everything in the PC and it made no difference, so it has to be something environmental, so to speak.
    softwaremaniac said:
    Also, when you swapped the PSU, did you change the power cable? If not, please do so.
    Thank you softwaremaniac, It certainly would seem that it could be environmental. However, The new PSU came with a power cord, which I used. No, I haven't checked the house wiring but our Flat is quite new and we have no other issues. Following your earlier suggestion I have the PC connected to it's own, previously unused, power outlet. I am borrowing another PSU that I am assured works fine, so I'll come back in about a week with an update then. I like a good mystery novel or movie, but this is becoming an obsession. The obvious solution now is to build a new PC from scratch, but that won't give me an answer, and, if it is indeed environmental, won't solve the problem. So I'll keep plugging along, taking any advice given and hopefully will eventually come to a resolution. Thanks again for the advice and interest.
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