Totally unimpressed by edge

Edge may not be ready for Prime Time but when MS is finished with it's development, it will be far better than any IE MS has made.

Gary said:

Edge may not be ready for Prime Time but when MS is finished with it's development, it will be far better than any IE MS has made.

I hope you are right! :)

Hi there.

speed of browsers these days is purely academic.

Most speed factors are OUTSIDE the browsers control these days. Assuming YOUR system isn't overloaded and is running reasonably.

1) Your Network speed --if you've a slow ISP ANY browser will have poor response time
2) Load on target server --If the target server or web site can't dish up the pages fast enough again ANY BROWSER will be SLOW.
3) code of target server -- if it's running poorly written code then your browser will be slow as well.
4) Hidden actions when you visit websites -- Google for example will pass details of your searches to a whole slew of websites --if you don't believe me go into IE (or any browser) where you can get into DEBUG mode --you'll probably be HORRIFIED at what you see.

Plus a whole slew of others such as quality of the code of addons etc -- so these topics on "Fast Browsers" are basically these days JUST POINTLESS on modern systems with up to date software.

Use browsers because of what they offer rather than purely academic details like speed.

If you study History there were endless arguments on how many angels could dance on the head of a pin !!!. Same sort of issue IMO.

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cheers
jimbo

While edge may be rather "Spartan" (that was it's code name, it was intended to be a slimed down browser), and it does lack a lot of features you would suggest, the things you are complaining about are not actually missing.

treads said:

I can't believe they still haven't included url paste and go in the address bar.

I don't know what you mean by "paste and go". IE doesn't have this feature as far as I know. And if it did, it would be very annoying because I often have to paste url's and make changes to them before I want to "go".

treads said:

i'd rather have the address bar in the usual place across the top .

The address bar is at the top. Not sure what you mean.

treads said:

The location of the favourites bar is in a terrible position on the right, what on earth is wrong worth horizontal bar like chrome?

You have to enable the favorites bar, and it's horizontal. The favorites list is just like in IE, a sidebar. It's in settings.

treads said:

how do you sync favourites between devices?

not yet supported, but expect it (along with extensions) in an upcoming release in the next few months.

treads said:

how do you put yr own url icons into the new tab page ? the customize option doesn't let u do this.

I don't know of a way to do this in any browser. Why would you expect this of Edge?

treads said:

update: i've just discovered u can show the favourites bar at the top of the browser but it seems you can't order the folders by dragging
update: you can order the folders by dragging but you have to go back the favourites side bar to do it, dear me.
also you have to go to the website for the icon to appear in the favourites bar and they are very small on screen

You can order the favorites, even in the favorites bar. It works for me.

Seems like you enjoy complaining before you've even looked to see if you can do something....

treads said:

plus only two choices for theme : light and dark , thanks for that MS

How many themes do you have in IE? Oh yeah, one.

treads said:

WOW !!!, another incredible ommisssion you can't select text and do a web search straight from the right click menu.
Do developers at MS actually use the internet?

How do you do this in IE again? You can't. Why are you complaining so loudly about things you can't even do in previous versions?

Mystere said:

While edge may be rather "Spartan" (that was it's code name, it was intended to be a slimed down browser), and it does lack a lot of features you would suggest, the things you are complaining about are not actually missing.

I don't know what you mean by "paste and go". IE doesn't have this feature as far as I know. And if it did, it would be very annoying because I often have to paste url's and make changes to them before I want to "go".

The address bar is at the top. Not sure what you mean.

You have to enable the favorites bar, and it's horizontal. The favorites list is just like in IE, a sidebar. It's in settings.
not yet supported, but expect it (along with extensions) in an upcoming release in the next few months.

I don't know of a way to do this in any browser. Why would you expect this of Edge?

You can order the favorites, even in the favorites bar. It works for me.

Seems like you enjoy complaining before you've even looked to see if you can do something....

How many themes do you have in IE? Oh yeah, one.

How do you do this in IE again? You can't. Why are you complaining so loudly about things you can't even do in previous versions?

WHAT !!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe u just wrote all that, you know nothing about modern browsers. Chrome. Opera, Forefox all have 'paste and go'
you copy a url to the clipboard and instead of having to paste and then hit enter you just use paste and go and it goes straight to the url or does a search if its just text in the case of chrome.
And I am not just comparing Edge to IE . I am comparing it to all its direct competitors.
The address bar is not at the top of the screen at all, if u click (or double click) on the magnifying glass it changes position to the top, but for some reason it won't stay there. I am looking at IE 11 now and the address bar is a the top of the screen.

Have u never heard of fast dial? its when u a have a editable bunch of yr most used urls on the browser home page.

"Seems like you enjoy complaining before you've even looked to see if you can do something...."
And it seems you are a complete MS sycophant who think everything they do is perfect. I have been looking at Edge and I am telling you, as many others will, that it is sadly lacking in its current incarnation.
And I don't really care how many themes there are but for MS to give you the choice of just light and dark as if its some amazing ground breaking feature they've dreamt up is laughable.

Get this simple fact into your head. MS have been coding browsers for a long time now and each new edition they have released has been as underwhelming and devoid of imagination as the last. Edge has been billed as something fresh and new but it is clearly nothing of the sort.

Oh yeah and another thing, go into IE, select some text in a web page, right click and tell me what u see on the menu.
In my version it says "search with bing" so that feature does in fact already exist in IE as well as other browsers.
you're the one who needs to check your facts not me.

treads said:

WHAT !!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe u just wrote all that, you know nothing about modern browsers. Chrome. Opera, Forefox all have 'paste and go'
you copy a url to the clipboard and instead of having to paste and then hit enter you just use paste and go and it goes straight to the url or does a search if its just text in the case of chrome.

When I paste in chrome, or FF, it just drops down the list and does not search until I press enter.

treads said:

And I am not just comparing Edge to IE . I am comparing it to all its direct competitors.
The address bar is not at the top of the screen at all, if u click (or double click) on the magnifying glass it changes position to the top, but for some reason it won't stay there. I am looking at IE 11 now and the address bar is a the top of the screen.

Magnifying glass? What are you talking about? Are you referring to the start page? If so, that only happens on the start page when it's at the very top of the page, all other times the address bar is in the normal place.

treads said:

Have u never heard of fast dial? its when u a have a editable bunch of yr most used urls on the browser home page.

Edge has the "top sites" list, which is your most frequently visited sites.

treads said:

"Seems like you enjoy complaining before you've even looked to see if you can do something...."
And it seems you are a complete MS sycophant who think everything they do is perfect. I have been looking at Edge and I am telling you, as many others will, that it is sadly lacking in its current incarnation.
And I don't really care how many themes there are but for MS to give you the choice of just light and dark as if its some amazing ground breaking feature they've dreamt up is laughable.

The dark theme is not there for personalization. It's there to save power. On phones and battery operated devices, using a dark theme reduces the amount of power an LCD draws.

treads said:

Get this simple fact into your head. MS have been coding browsers for a long time now and each new edition they have released has been as underwhelming and devoid of imagination as the last. Edge has been billed as something fresh and new but it is clearly nothing of the sort.

All new browsers start out underwhelming. Firefox did, Chrome did, IE did. It takes time for the software to mature. Just because MS has been building browsers for a long time doesn't mean a completely new browser can spring fully feature laden and mature on its first release. Edge is actually very impressive for a first release in many ways. Remember, chrome didn't have extensions at first either.

treads said:

Oh yeah and another thing, go into IE, select some text in a web page, right click and tell me what u see on the menu.
In my version it says "search with bing" so that feature does in fact already exist in IE as well as other browsers.
you're the one who needs to check your facts not me.

Nope, I don't have that. It must be an extension you have installed. So you should also check your facts.

I tried to like Edge, but cant deal with all its shortcomings at this point..Was using cyberfox for awhile, but the endless Shockwave lockups/slowdowns were driving me nuts, so I thought, hell, lets try Google Chrome again, and all I can say is WOW!
Hopefully, Edge gets better down the road, but for now, you really need to give Chrome a shot, for me, its far and away the best browser for my win 10 pro setup..

cluberti said:

Chrome is great unless you're on a mobile device. If you've got a huge battery on that device it might be OK, but Chrome is a power hog. I think this is where Edge can start to make inroads, assuming the development keeps moving along and making it a better browser release after release.

agreed; its weird how a browser that should be optimized for mobile devices sucks the life out of them..
I use firefox on my Android phone, and now I use chrome on my win 10 desktop...go figure!