Stupid Windows 10 Viruses

fredc said:

Your using a firewall and defender , thats fine , try using no firewall and no AV lol.

Unless you are connected directly to the internet you don't need a firewall at all really. All Macs are shipped with firewall disabled by default as almost all (home) users connect through a router so really there is no point... Your PC isn't exposed directly.

eLPuSHeR said:

I am pretty sure most people gets infected nowadays by installing any software and clicking the NEXT button without choosing "custom install" or something like that. If not viruses, at least adware/pups.

Adware/ pups for sure , it's mind boggling how many programs come with hidden pups etc...

I have found Eset online scanner with the (pups enabled) box checked to find all of them. Even CCleaner has a bunch , run Eset and see for yourself . CCleaner portable is free of them though but not the exe version.

halasz said:

Unless you are connected directly to the internet you don't need a firewall at all really. All Macs are shipped with firewall disabled by default as almost all (home) users connect through a router so really there is no point... Your PC isn't exposed directly.

I'm not talking about not being connected to the internet lol. I don't use a router so can't comment on that but when you think of being on the web your connected to the internet , i thought that was a given.


Want to see how fast you are infected , try connecting to the net with your firewall disabled , nightmare.

BunnyJ said:

You need to think about where you get your programs from. That's the issue.

Actually no, that is not the issue , i only download direct from Piroform and sometimes Bleeping computer , thats it. Emsisoft had a big news article about pups , there is no download site safe from pups now .

If you have CCleaner do a scan with Eset , you will find 4 pups . If you have portable your clean though. Even Piroform admitted their regular exe program does indeed have pups , only Eset will pick them up though(you must have the (enable pup detection) box checked though .

Mbam won't pick them up either , Emsisoft and Kaspersky don't .

After upgrading Win 8.1 with Malewarebytes and no AV, Edge get 10 Seconds later Ransomware BSOD 333.



Eset Online clear this for me! Not Malewarebytes, not HitmanPro or many others...! A little Bit hard....

fredc said:

I'm not talking about not being connected to the internet lol. I don't use a router so can't comment on that but when you think of being on the web your connected to the internet , i thought that was a given.

Not really. It depends what you have listening. viruses/pups don't have much to do with a firewall. worms/bots do. a firewall will not help you against a virus/trojan/pup

anyway, i would much rather KNOW what services are listening/running on my computer and run without a software firewall. there are, no doubt, situations that do justify the use of software firewalls, i can't deny that. but for home use, i'm pretty meh on the use of a firewall. if nothing is listening, what's the point?